Joys and Sorrows of a Book Club

Sarah Hall reading ‘Helm’ in a conversation with Emma Healy in Holt, July 2026.
During the evening, Hall discussed her acclaimed sixth novel, ‘Helm’, which is uniquely narrated by England’s only named wind and explores the deep connections between human life, folklore, and the natural landscape of the Eden Valley.

Wir sind in einem Buchclub einer Naturorganisation, denn einen anderen gibt es hier nicht. Dort wird die Natur aus literarischer Perspektive betrachtet: Man entdeckt Seehunde, Seevögel, Hasen und einen ungewöhnlichen Pilz sowie Seetang, der wie Feenhaar aussieht. Ähnlich ist es mit den Büchern: Man entdeckt Naturbeschreibungen wie den Klassiker Gilbert Whites „Die Naturgeschichte von Selborne”, Evolutionstheorien wie „Der Fluss, der bergauf fließt” und sogar ein Buch von Barbara Kingsolver über gesundes Essen. Oft lesen wir Bücher, die wir ohne die Gruppe niemals lesen würden.

Think of reading as eating and the choices you have.

Wir lesen sogar Bücher, die uns nicht gefallen. Aber das ist noch nicht alles: Dina kam auf einen noch besseren Vergleich. Man kann Lesen wie Essen sehen. Es gibt Gerichte, die uns schmecken, und andere, die wir ganz und gar nicht mögen, wie Graupen, bei denen uns die Haare zu Berge stehen. In einem Restaurant oder Deli kann man Neues entdecken, wenn man sich umschaut, die Gerüche wahrnimmt und plötzlich auf etwas völlig Unerwartetes stößt. Darauf kommt es beim Essen, beim Lesen und im Leben an: dass man nicht stets Gleiches wiederholt.
In unserem Buchclub sind wir gezwungen, jenseits unserer gewohnten Kategorien zu lesen. Das ist besonders für Kb und Siri so.

Alternatively, think of reading as drinking and your favoured drink

Durch den Buchclub lesen wir manchmal Bücher, die wir fürchterlich finden. Durch sie können wir jedoch viel über Literatur lernen, nämlich was nicht funktioniert und warum. Meistens handelt es sich um Kitsch, also die Übererfüllung der angenommenen Erwartungen der Leser. In jeder Gruppe gibt es aber auch jene, die Easy Reading lieben. Siri fragte kürzlich: „Was macht ein Buch wert, diskutiert zu werden? Habt ihr euch je durch ein Buch gekämpft, das ihr nie selbst gewählt hättet, und gemerkt, dass es sich nach der Buchclub-Diskussion als lesenswert entpuppte? Ein Buch muss nicht gefallen, um lesenswert zu sein.
In einem Buchklub hört man andere Meinungen und Perspektiven und sieht die eigene Meinung nicht als das Ein und Alles an.

Would the Kingfisher stick to prawns and stickleback if he had a choice?

Und überhaupt“, meint Selma, „für mich zählen die Treffen selbst. Da komme ich mit meiner Meinung an, und jemand anderes findet ausgerechnet das ärgerlich an dem Buch und erwähnt etwas, das ich überlesen habe. Ich merke: Die Wahrheit liegt nicht in einer Meinung, sondern in vielen. Meine Welt wird größer.
Dina ergänzt: „Die wahre Geschichte beginnt, wenn beispielsweise zwölf Leute zwölf verschiedene Meinungen vertreten. Es ist ein kleines Wunder, wenn neugierige, belesene Leute in einer Runde sitzen und über ein Buch reden. Das Buch wird zu etwas anderem. Plötzlich ist es wie viele Bücher. Einer bemerkt, was ich überlesen haben, einen stört der Charakter, den ich toll finden, und bisweilen sagt einer etwas, das mich das Buch anders sehen lässt. Das ist die Magie eines Buchclubs für mich.

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  1. This is a good reflection on book clubs. They do stretch your reading and get you to try different genres. That being said, I don’t belong to one. The only local book clubs read mainly contemporary women’s lit which I don’t enjoy. I get my reading recommendations from Dave Astor and Rebecca Budd 😊

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    • Dear Roberta

      We get our reading recommendation from literary programmes in the German TV by Denis Scheck and Thea Dorn and from papers like The Guardian and New York Times. We like Dave and Rebecca but in general we don’t trust the net and especially not social media. It seem to us much more biased than reviews in the print media and radio and TV.

      Thank you very much for commenting
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  2. I have belonged to a few different book clubs over the years. Some good, some not so good. My reading time is preciuos so I’d rather read what I want to read, usually books recommended by friends with similar reading tastes to my own. Although I do enjoy trying something new from time to time and I always enjoy a discussion about books.

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    • Dear Darlene

      We are in the privileged situation that we have enough time for reading. So we can sometimes afford to read books which are not to our taste.
      It’s interesting. For us it’s fantasy and romance but so we learn about other readers tastes.

      Thank you
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  3. I like the food and drink analogies for reading. I am an indie reader and am not fond of bookblubs, I was once a member and could not get past the forced reading of something I didn’t like. Was like someone forcing me to eat pearled barley. Hanne’s photos are spectacular.

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  4. I’ve never felt the inclination to join a book club. I think it’s the idea of “forced” reading. I prefer to read for pleasure, at a leisurely pace, and skip between titles on occasion. A book club feels like I’d be on a deadline to finish the book. That doesn’t seem like fun to me.

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    • Hi Richard

      A book club is more a challenge than fun. A book club made us read interesting books we would never have picked up otherwise. But it makes us read books which are no fun to read. Especially Kb is used to read books as a job all his life. He made his poor students read books they found utterly boring, we suppose, but they learned from it.

      Well, we have enough time to read what we like and what we don’t like but found interesting. But we struggle often with the books we have to read for our book club.

      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  5. I have been tempted, mainly for the social aspect, but I have to agree with Richard. Only recently have I actually stopped reading a book part way through because I am not enjoying it. The one I am currently reading irritates me as it uses italics to emphasise a point, but I am plodding on.

    Hanne’s photos are, as usual, exquisite. Especially that ram.

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    • I hardly read any of “Gone Girl” before I quit and never went back. I couldn’t stand any of the characters, so I took a guess at the ending, looked, and was pretty much on target. I’ve stopped reading some other books after a bit because they just weren’t interesting to me or the writing wasn’t that good.

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    • Thanks a lot, dear Jude 🙏 🙏

      Thank you very much for liking Hanne’s pictures. We also like the picture of the ram best.

      We sometimes struggle with a book if we should stop reading it or not. To end this struggle we decided that we read every book to its end when we have read more than the first 50 pages.

      Wishing you a great day
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  6. We’ve been in the same book club with the same 5 couples for 36 years (minus those who have passed on). We are all now in our 70s and 80s. It’s been a great run and we devote one whole book case to the books we have read. Over 300 now. We have an unusual rule. You don’t have to read the book. Two or three members much prefer to listen to them. And sometimes other things get in the way. It’s perfectly okay. Many a spirited conversation has been had down through the years and we have become the closest of friends. –Curt

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    • Dear Curt

      That’s great! You are very lucky.

      We find your rule that you don’t need to read the book very clever. And we can well understand that just listening to the discussions is fun.

      We wish you many more years with your book club
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  7. Ich bin Individualleser.
    Bin nur in einem Sketcher”club” Und in einer Schmetterlingsgruppe (in denen auch viel diskutiert wird).
    Zur Zeit kämpfe ich mich durch ein Buch über Halbwahrheiten, das recht anspruchsvoll ist.
    Mir gefallen aber auch profunde Einzeltexte wie die zwei zu der Fritz Scholder-Ausstellung im MMK Frankfurt. Die las ich zweimal, weil sie so profund geschrieben waren.
    In Letzter Zeit lese ich auch Leseproben, um über den Stil eines Autors etwas zu erfahren.

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    • Guten Morgen, Gehard

      Bislang war Kb auch Individualleser, naja, nicht als Student, als es Leselisten gab, und nun ist er in einem Buch Club, in dem viel gelesen wird, was ihm eigentlich fremd ist. Aber er schlägt sich wacker, hat sich durch Bücher wie ‘Die Natural History of Selborne’ durchgebissen und Bücher vertreten wie ‘Orbital’, die andere wiederum ‘strange’ fanden. Bis jetzt bleibt er dabei, auch wegen der Leute.

      Mit lieben Grüßen vom Meer
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  8. I think it’s a social thing as much as anything else. It’s interesting to hear other views and realise that there isn’t only yours. I do value my reading time though, and don’t want to waste it. I’m currently on a waiting list to join a local book club! Quite intimidating really.

    Love the photos xx

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    • Dear Jo

      Indeed, it’s a social thing as well as it is about the books.
      There are or were some book clubs here were having a chat and drink a tea together and just saying “what a nice book” was all.
      In our book club you have both, first discussing the book then a break with tea or coffee, personal talk and afterwards a talk about what you are just reading.

      Thanks
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  9. I very much enjoyed reading your reflection on a book club, and I can easily see all the benefits of being part of a book club. It is certainly a great way to discover new books and build social connections, but I’ve never been a member of one, mostly because I don’t get to read as much as I would initially like, and thus I would not wanna waste my precious reading time on bad books or books that are wrong for a certain time in my life. On another note, Hanne’s photos are brilliant. I just love how they highlight the birds and their environment. Thanks for sharing, and have a good day 🙂 Aiva xx

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    • Hi Aiva

      Fortunately, we have enough time to read what we like and also to read for the book club. For a long time Kb was in a situation that he had to read what his editor or his agent told him. So he learned to write modern non-fiction. As he is used to it he doesn’t mind the reading list of a book club.

      Thank you very to like Hanne’s photography 🙏 🙏

      Keep well
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  10. I’ve never belonged to a book club, nor do I have the inclination to do so. I prefer to read what I want, when I want, and at the pace I want. In my busy life, reading is a luxury to me, so when I find the time to read something, most of the time, it has to be something helpful. Each to his/her own though. If we were all the same, what a boring old world this would be.

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  11. Great post that I am passing on to my book club. Our members pretty much agree with your thoughts on trying things we wouldn’t necessarily have picked on our own. Usually, especially after our discussions, we feel we have benefited from the books. Awesome photographs!

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  12. I have never joined a book club, due to lack of time and inclination. I can appreciate the rewarding aspects noted in your post, however. A spontaneous discussion with one or more people who happen to have read a particular book can be delightful, but of course would not be organized in advance.

    The photos are magnificent!

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    • Good afternoon, dear Audrey

      Like everything a book club has its pros and cons. For us it’s a big pro that we have to read books we wouldn’t otherwise. We become aware how limited our choice of books is we read usually.

      Thanks for liking Hanne-Dina’s photography 🙏 🙏

      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  13. I’ve never joined a book club, although I read copious amounts of books, most of which are for enjoyment and relaxation. I do read non-fiction more now than I used to, though, and I enjoy nature and travel books as well as others. The photos are wonderful.

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    • Kb likes to read travel books as well. He just finished “The River at the Centre of the World” by Simon Winchester. And we are collecting books about polar expeditions and are very proud to have Nansen’s “Farthest North” and Amundsen’s “The South Pole” in the first edition.

      In our book club the members like and collect nature books.

      Thanks
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  14. I love books and I love meeting people. Have never belonged to a book club nor had the inclination to join. Have read your post and every one of the comments and nodded at quite a few . . . to me, being part of such a collection of likeminded people would largely lie in making friends interested in similar matters. As far as books go, love to choose my own which invite at the time and read them when the time and mood ask me to do so 🙂 ! Oft methinks keep my thoughts and beliefs to myself . . . 🙂 !

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    • Hi Eha

      We see the advantage of a book club that we understand how limited our ideas of a book are. Although, most of us four are professional readers but we see books one-dimensional and mostly in the same way. For us it’s fun to see other possibilities to understand a book.

      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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    • Hi Mary

      The biggest advantage of a book club is to show you ways of understanding a text you didn’t think about and make you read books you wouldn’t read otherwise.

      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  15. Forget the bookclubs (which are a boon to bookworms and a pastime I can no longer indulge in due worsening astigmatism and myopia), I just love viewing Dina’s stunning nature photography.

    Thank God I can still see (most) of a photo. Does Dina have any photography books published? I don’t think I’ve ever asked before.

    My Mother was a member of a bookclub when I was a teenager and it was a joy to see her shy self out and about conversing about a hobby she loved.

    Oiur house was always filled with books despite being quite poor and every Thursday after school the whole family went to the local public library for a couple of hours and to borrow 6-7 books for each family member.

    To me a house is not a home without books.

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    • Dear Vicki

      No, Hanne-Dina hasn’t published her nature photos in a book. She is a very private person. But she has published her photos in national and international papers like f.e. The Times, The Guardian and the BBC.

      Thanks and cheers
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  16. Agree with you that book clubs have pushed me to read books I wouldn’t have otherwise chosen. The group has to mesh and everyone needs to be respectful of differing opinions for it to be successful. Group dynamics can go awry at times which makes for a long evening. 🙂 Having said that, I’ve enjoyed being a part of book clubs over the years for the social element as well as intellectual. Right now, I’m an avid “indie”. Enjoyed reading your thoughts, Fab Four, and Hanne’s photos are superb, as always.

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    • Dear Jane

      You made a very important point how a successful book club has to be. We 100% agree with you. If the group dynamics isn’t right one better stays away.
      For us, a book club is new. We were indie-readers for many years and now we try something new. Berenice Abbott said “Photography helps people to see” and we say “A book club helps people to understand”.

      Thanks for liking Hanne’s photography.
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  17. I like the idea of a book club, but in reality, they’ve made me feel like I was back in English class, forced to read something I may not want to and on a deadline. I do enjoy listening to Canada Reads, a book competition on the radio. Even if I haven’t read any of the books, I appreciate the discussion. Maggie

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    • Dear Maggie

      Maybe it helps that at least our dear Kb had great literature lessons at school. Maybe it was because he was in special school for mathematical gifted students. So literature was no so important and that was the chance for freedom. He was never under pressure to get some text read and actually reading literature was a kind of rebellion in his school. Therefore he doesn’t have a problem with reading a text for a deadline and we neither.

      We enjoy literary programmes in the German TV, especially Denis Scheck and Thea Dorn. Literary programmes in the German TV inform about international literature.

      Thanks and cheers

      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  18. Such an engaging reflection on book clubs! 📚✨ I love how they bring together different perspectives, lively conversations, and a shared love of reading even when everyone doesn’t agree. The joys and occasional frustrations are all part of the experience! 😊

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    • YES!

      We enjoy very much to discover the different perspectives of a text, more perspectives than we would see. Book clubs is leaving one-dimensionality

      The Fab Four of Cley
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    • Dear Cindy

      It was our psychoanalyst to make us read lots of literature and who recommended a book club for us – well, a very special book club of he clients.

      The Fab Four of Cley
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  19. The NWT Cley Book Group meet during the opening hours of the reserve in an intimate setting with gorgeous views over the salt marshes.
    The October book is one we really look forward to – “Waterland” by Graham Swift. Widely considered Swift’s breakout masterpiece and a landmark of post-war British literature, it is set in the East Anglian Fens not far from us and explores history, memory, and personal tragedy. Have you read it or seen the film, maybe?

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    • Hi Siri,
      NWT sounds like the perfect setting for a group of avid readers and the nature theme.
      I especially like the non-fiction books you have been discussing and I also read “Orbital” by Samantha Harvey when it was on your list – uplifting, in every sense.

      I most certainly have read “Waterland” and also seen the film with Jeremy Irons. I recall visiting the Fens with the four of you many years ago and our lively discussions about the impact of the landscape. The Fens is not exactly an AONB, rather a setting for a bleak, moody novel, muddy feet and damp weather.

      Kram Annalena xx

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    • I love “Waterland”. I read it first when I was climbing Mount Olympus with a friend. It’s such a powerful book that it catapulted me in the Fens when I was in a landscape that was just the opposite. We think “Waterland” is a great novel and we love that all the places describet we know. Swift caught perfectly well the mood of the Fens.

      The film was filmed in the US didn’t get this paticalar Fen-mood.

      Anyway, we are looking forward to discuss “Waterland” in our book group.
      The Fab Four of Cley
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  20. I’m a huge fan of our book club. I relish being compelled to read books I wouldn’t have chosen, often finding I’d have missed out if I hadn’t read them. But a book club focussing on the natural world. That sounds special. I wonder if I should start one ….?

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  21. My dear friends,
    I love the exquisite photos and can relate to a set menu versus a la carte. 😊
    I was thinking I would always prefer to make my own choice regarding food, but I mostly ask for recommendations when I visit a restaurant.
    Whilst I was living and working in Longyearbyen, I enjoyed being part of the local book group. It was a good mix of men and women and for me the social aspect was just as important as the books we read.
    Are there any men in your book group, except for Kb?

    Klem
    Per Magnus xx

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    • Dear Per Magnus

      There are two other men but about 20 women in our book group. You made the point, there are alway much more women than men in book groups. You are lucky to have a good mix of men and women in your book group.

      Talke to you at the weekend
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  22. I enjoyed the excellent photos. As for book clubs, I feel the same way about them as I do camera clubs. Everyone is different, and we all read or photograph what interests us, with occasional deviations and explorations. I like to read alone, and take photos alone. So clubs are not suitable for me.

    Love to you all from Beetley. Pete X

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    • Dear Pete

      That makes it interesting that we all are different. That’s the joy of it, that in a book club you see so many different ways to see a book. It helps you to leave your one-dimensional understanding of a text.

      Thanks for liking Dina’s photos
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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    • Dear Rupali

      Siri and Selma quite often make me enjoy what I wouldn’t do before.
      We suppose it’s always important to be aware that there is another way of undderstanding.

      Thanks for liking Dina’s photos.

      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  23. I just love your post, ihr Lieben in Cley, many thanks! Natürlich bin ich auch seit beinahe 50 Jahren in Lesegruppen in verschiedenen Sprachen. Die Gruppe ist inzwischen kleiner geworden, aber wir wechseln die Sprachen immer nach jedem Buch, sowie auch die Personen, die einen neuen Titel vorschlagen. Der naechste Titel heisst « Nord Sentinelle «  de Jérome Ferrari! Ich freue mich darauf meine Eindrücke mit denen der anderen zu vergleichen und dabei zu neuen Ansichten zu gelangen! Cari saluti Martina

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  24. I’ve only once been a book club member & that was one linked to an animal welfare charity & it was via a Zoom link. That was fun since I was the only member not in Scotland but it fizzled out and is now reduced to a few comments on Goodreads! It is good to read many different styles or to read different views but after a while, as I grow older I’m inclined to think my views are best! 😉😄 It’s a bit like that with food too! I don’t want to make myself ill, deliberately! I’m currently reading Denis Noble’s The Music of Life; I’m neither a scientist or a musician but my imagination was tweaked when I heard him speak on television, very interesting.

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    • Dear AshleyI

      As older we get as more we have the feeling that we have to look not to get too rigit. Our blog helps us to see other ways of seeing and thinking. I don’t think we know what’s right and wrong. And that’s a freedom to see there are a lot of views of our reality.

      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  25. My husband and I are in the same book club. I like your analogy of tapas – sometimes we like the selected books, sometimes not. We also read on our own. Some book clubs have more emphasis on socializing. We do some of that, but we actually discuss the book, too! Like you mention, I always love hearing others’ perspectives on the books and characters, and I always learn something.

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