Silence

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Erling Kagge          © Simon Skreddernes
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      

Siri 🙂 and 🙂 Selma gave Dina and me, “because we are so dear“, the book of the Norwegian author, publisher and greatest living explorer Erling Kagge “Silence in the Age of Noise“. This book has moved us and made us rethink our way of life. We hadn’t had this reading-experience for a long time. It’s about the noble art to find yourself, to become quiet.

Siri 🙂 und 🙂 Selma schenkten Dina und mir, weil wir “sooo lieb sind“, das Buch des norwegischen Autors, Verlegers und größten lebenden Explorers Erling Kagge “Stille. Ein Wegweiser“. Seit langer Zeit war dies wieder ein Buch, das uns bewegte, unser Leben neu zu überdenken. Es handelt von der edlen Kunst, zu sich selbst zurückzufinden, stille zu werden wie das Baby beim Stillen.



Erling Kagge at the South Pole.  “Here stillness is all-absorbing. I feel and hear it. The sound of space does not feel threatening or terrifying, but comforting.”

 

Our first bookish encounter with silence occurred many years ago reading Wittgenstein’s “Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus“. There we found the much-quoted last sentence of this text, What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence“. Back then we have been far away from understanding all the connotations of this statement. Our beloved Bookfayries even thought in youthful ignorance this sentence is uninspired and rather trivial.  

Unsere erste Begegnung mit der Stille und dem Schweigen fand vor vielen, vielen Jahren statt, als wir  Wittgensteins “Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus” lasen und auf den vielzitierten letzten Satz dort trafen, “worüber man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen.”  Damals waren wir weit davon entfernt, alle Konnotationen dieser Aussage zu verstehen. In jugendlicher Ignoranz fanden unsere geliebten Buchfeen diesen Satz geradezu lächerlich platt.

 

Solitude at the South Pole, Erling Kagge 

After having read Kagge’s book we understand the dimensions of silence better, that what Wittgenstein wrote in a cottage at the Norwegian Sognefjord in 1917 drowned in the silence of his surroundings. The silence, sung about by the Romantics and always encountered by them in nature, is the real luxury of our times. It takes us back to ourselves in a time we mostly live through others. We are sitting in front of our screens obsessed by the social media collecting friends like stamps. We are happy about every LIKE and comment and lose ourselves without noticing. That’s the darn addiction to get recognition which makes us unhappy. All this vanity – enviable who has none! Kagge drew our attention to Heidegger who was visionary by writing in “Being and Time” (1927, quite an unreadable book) Everyone is the other, no one is themselves“. This especially applies to our hyperconnected society that makes us, in the words of our dear Bookfayries, stupidity see as creativity. 

Heute sind wir älter und nach dem Lesen von Kagges Buch, verstehen wir einige Dimensionen, die Schweigen und Stille beinhalten, das, was Wittgenstein 1917 in einer Hütte am norwegischen Sogneford, von Stille umgeben, niederschrieb. Die von den Romantikern viel besungene Stille, die diese stets in der Natur fanden, ist der Luxus unserer heutigen Zeit. Sie bringt uns zurück zu uns selbst in einer Zeit, in der wir zunehmend durch andere leben. Da hocken wir vorm Bildschirm besessen von den sozialen Medien und sammeln Freunde wie andere Briefmarken. Wir freuen uns über jedes Like und jeden Kommentar und kommen uns so unmerklich selbst abhanden. Das ist diese verflixte Sucht nach Anerkennung durch andere, die uns unglücklich macht. Diese Eitelkeit – beneidenswert, wer frei davon! Kagge machte uns darauf aufmerksam, dass Heidegger in visionärer Weise schon 1927 in “Sein und Zeit” bedauerte, dass jeder ein anderer ist und keiner er selbst. Dies trifft besonders in unserer “hyperconnected” Gesellschaft zu, die, wie unsere Buchfeen es kühn ausdrücken, dumme Beschränktheit als Kreativität erscheinen lässt.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            

Technology is fine but we relate too much on it
Erling Kagge

 

Silence always was connected with fear. That’s the horror vacui, fearing the nothingness that’s eating our personality. Maybe some of you experienced this during meditation. Before our inner monologue vanishes in the background, before you really relax to reach in the here and now, we have to cross the threshold of fear. You have the feeling to dissolve, to become nothing before you become yourself. That’s what the Sufis and Gurdjieff were expressing by saying “die before you die“.
Siri 🙂 and 🙂 Selma liked most Kagge conviction that you don’t have to withdraw into monasteries or the wilderness like Thoreau but you can find silence in our noisy world by turning inside yourself. Gurdjieff had a similar idea writing you have to find yourself in your everyday work.  

 

Stille wurde stets mit Angst verbunden. Das ist der horror vacui, die Angst vor dem Nichts, das unsere Persönlichkeit auflöst. Vielleicht kennt ihr dieses Erlebnis von der Meditation. Bevor man den inneren Monolog in den Hintergrund treten lässt, bevor man sich tief entspannt, um im Hier und Jetzt anzukommen, muss man eine Angstschwelle durchschreiten. Man hat das Gefühl, sich aufzulösen, ein Nichts zu werden, bevor man man selbst wird. Das meinten wahrscheinlich die Sufis und Gurdjieff, mit ihrer Empfehlung “stirb, bevor du stirbst“. Was Siri 🙂 und 🙂 Selma jedoch am meisten an Kagges Buch lieben, ist seine Betonung, dass wir für die Erfahrung der Stille uns nicht von der Welt in Klöster oder wie Thoreau in Einöden zurückziehen müssen, sondern sie in unserer heutigen lauten Welt finden können, eine Idee, die uns schon bei Gurdijeff faszinierte.

 

Siri 🙂 and 🙂 Selma did ask if it’s wise to write about silence. Shouldn’t we better stay silent (no words, no pictures)? …
Da fragten uns Siri 🙂 und 🙂 Selma, ob man über Stille überhaupt schreiben sollte oder ob nicht eher Schweigen in Wort und Bild angesagt sei …

Okay
The Fab Four of Cley, speechless
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If you want to read more about Silence:
Leseempfehlungen von Siri 🙂 und 🙂 Selma:
https://radiergummi.wordpress.com/2017/10/29/erling-kagge-stille/ 
http://www.moma.org/explore/inside-out/2010/06/03/marina-abramovic-the-artist-speaks

 

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© Text Hanne Siebers and Klausbernd Vollmar, Cley next the Sea, 2018, we got the illustrations from Erling Kagge (emails from Nov. 2018), © Erling Kagge

 

 

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    • Good morning dear Sreejith,
      we suppose there are many parallels between Hinduist and Buddhist philosophy and Kagge’s philosophical writings about silence.
      Erling Kagge’s book is worth reading! We loved it 🙂 🙂
      Thanks for commenting and all the best
      The Fab Four of Cley

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  1. Hi, dear friends,
    I agree with you and Erling Kagge, silence is VERY important. Without silence no creativity, and silence is healing, isn’t it? Coming from Svalbard it was always easy for me to find places without any sounds except nature-sounds. Living partly in Germany now, I understand how important it is to find your inner silence in a surrounding that is polluted by noise and pictures. There are too much distractions, too many impulses, and there is an attitude to want MORE in every respect.
    I could write more and more 😉 about this.
    Wishing you a blessed silent day
    Per Magnus xx

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    • Good morning, dear Per Magnus,
      we immediately understood how important silence is reading Kagge’s book. The basic ideas reminded our dear Master of ideas of Gurdjieff and Buddhist teachings.
      We are in the privileged situation here that we hear hardly any artificial sounds besides nature sounds. But like everybody we are surrounded by noise, acoustic and pictures, the moment we go to our next market town or open our computer.
      With lots of love from the sunny coast – it’s quite warm
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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  2. Wow. The photo of the author is one of the strongest portraits I have seen for a long time. Excellent pairing to the text. I’m heading right over to Amazon to get his book. It’s seldom I get this wow-effect when I see or read something. Well done, a great post, Fab Four!
    Kind Regards, John

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    • Dear John,
      thank you so much! 🙂 🙂
      When we saw this picture of Erling we were immediately taken by it.
      We think “silence” is very important in our noisy times, and so we loved writing this text.
      Kind regards
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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  3. Great post, Fab Four! I admire Erling Kagge for his achievements. I have seen him on TV many times, his philosophy and way of life are most appealing. Thank you for the recommendation, this book is on my list!
    Hugs from Stockholm,
    Annalena Xx

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    • Good afternoon, dear Annalena,
      we know you will love Erling’s book about silence. We are just starting to read his new book “Gehen. Weiter gehen”. It seems to be as great. Unfortunately, it’s not for sale in English yet. You’ll get in all Scandinavian languages, German and most languages of the European continent.
      With lots of love from Norfolk to beautiful Stockholm
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭
      xxxx

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  4. Great book, thanks for sharing this information, dear Fairies! Personally I have rejected social medias at the eraly age of their appearing…and I do not suffer at all. Vanity gulps our time and minds.

    Have a nice silent week-end!
    Best wishes,
    Maria

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    • Ja toll, dass wir dir Erling Kagge nahebringen konnten. Mit den Worten unserer liebklugen Buchfeen “der ist absolute Spitze”. Unsere Kommunikation mit ihm ist easy, obwohl wir ja Lehnstuhl-Explorer sind.
      Habe herzlichen Dank für deinen lieben Kommentar
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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    • Guten Tag, liebe Annette,
      die Angaben zur deutschen Ausgabe von Erling’s Buch findest du in der ersten Leseempfehlung. Wir lasen es im norwegischen Original bzw. in Englisch und können dir leider nicht den Verlag sagen. Und wenn’s dir gefällt, was wir nicht bezweifeln, können wir dir gleich sein neues Buch “Gehen. Weiter Gehen” empfehlen, das im Insel Vlg. 2018 herauskam.
      Viel Spaß beim Lesen und ganz liebe Grüße
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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    • Hallo ihr Lieben, danke für die schnelle Info. Ich hatte die Tage sogar schon sein neues Buch zufällig in der Hand, “Stille” steht jetzt auf meiner Liste für den nächsten Besuch in der Buchhandlung 😀 Nochmals danke für den Tipp und viele liebe Grüße aus Do, Annette 🙂

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  5. I doubt I have ever experienced ‘true’ silence in my entire 66 years of life. Silence is impossible when living in a city, and even moving to the countryside, there is still so much sound to deal with. They are good sounds, like wind in the trees, owls after dark, even the distant roar of aircraft in the sky. But silence? I think it is not only elusive, but perhaps impossible to find, even in those icy wastes.
    As always, thought-provoking text to accompany wonderful images.
    Love from Beetley, Pete and Ollie. X

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    • Dear Pete,
      it’s very important for Erling that you can find silence everywhere, the silence inside. Like Gurdjieff, he praises to disconnect regularly from the outside world to find your silent inner sanctum. Erling walked in 3 (or was it 4 days?) from one end to other in Los Angelas and even found his inner silence there. All that reminds on my Gurdjieff teacher who taught me “not doing anything”. For my feeling, we do much too much all the time, we pollute the world with even more pictures and words (like I just do).
      Sometimes I have to force myself finding my inner silence, but when I found it, and even if it’s for a couple of minutes only, I feel open wide and happy. That has not so much to do with my surroundings but I have to admit in the beginning it’s easier in quieter surroundings. Silence is a way of life for me rather than a quality of my surroundings.
      Thank you very much for your comment.
      With love
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭
      xxxx

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  6. Fab Four of Cley,
    I love silence, always have. I can’t possibly add anything about it you haven’t already mentioned, except how much I’ve enjoyed it over the years. As a kid, I would open my bedroom window and sit on the ledge late into the night, watching the cold, clear sky pass above me. I showed my son the silence by bringing him to the ocean and just staring out to the horizon – he understood. In this day and age of the “ME’ Generation and looking for things to complain about – Silence is needed more than ever!
    As to Siri and Selma’s question – We need pictures, they speak a lot to us within the “sounds of silence.”
    Have a magnificent weekend!
    GP Cox

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    • Our dear friend GP Cox,
      thanks a lot for sharing your experience with silence. And you wouldn’t believe it Dina and I taught Siri 🙂 and 🙂 Selma just staring out over the sea as well and they love it now. Well, in the beginning, they thought it’s very strange but soon they understood without words.
      We love your expression about speaking within the sounds of silence. We hope that our blog does this. Ideally, every communication should be a speaking within the sound of silence. That would make the world a better place.
      With lots of love and wishing you a wonderful and happy rest of the week
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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    • Thank you very much, our dear friend 🙂 🙂
      We have to admit we quite often struggle with the English words. As non-native speakers we are often unsure about the style and expressing subleties.
      Your commentary helped our confidence writing English quite a lot. THANK YOU!
      Love
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃👭🚶‍♂️

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    • Dear Michael,
      you were really blessed, blessed to be there and blessed to able to experience this transformation.
      Thank you very much for sharing
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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  7. As a young person i always found being on my own very difficult but as Ive got older it is something I enjoy and find comfortable. The book sounds really interesting. People are afraid of stopping, of being bored, but silence is needed to recoup and recharge and to allow fresh ideas to develop.

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    • We have the feeling that being bored is a luxury in times of endless activities. Boring has such a negative connotation but it has its light sides as well. Nothing is happening, what a bliss that is.
      We agree, without silence there is no creativity.
      Thanks a lot for sharing.
      All the best
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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  8. Absolutely mesmerising, love it and will definitely read the book, hoping that it will help me change my addiction to noise as well.
    Loved the silent interview. Awesome!
    Thank you again, dear friends, for sharing another magical experience. 🙏🏻

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    • Good afternoon, dear Frederik,
      many years ago, when I moved to Norfolk I had a clever teacher. He gave me a kind of koan that’s still important for me “who are you when you are not doing?”. This not doing is a real challenge for me although I always felt how healing it is for me. Not doing is my way to find my inner self but doing this not doing gets harder and harder for me as older I get. It’s strange because actually I don’t need to do anything. Well, it’s absurd. Erling’s book brought me back to put an effort into this resting in my inner self and even it is for a little while only.
      See you soon and let us try to overcome our addiction to noise together.
      Thanks a lot for commenting, our dear friend
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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  9. What an exciting piece, I am impressed so much… You are amazing guide for books, I can read all your selections… I will search and will try to find this book, I really want to read. Thank you so much to you all, This is so beautiful, so beautiful even I haven’t read it yet… Love, nia

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  10. You have stirred up memories in me of the old Simon & Garfunkle tune, The Sound of Silence. There is a lot to be said for having nothing to say. On our recent trip thru the state of Oregon our friends took us on a trip to Crater Lake, the deepest lake in North America, which is situated inside the top of a dormant volcano. I experienced the quiet that I have had on mountain tops and in the desert in the past. My wife observed that as we sat looking out at the incredibly blue water, arrivals of visitors slowly transitioned from being noisy groups to quietly reverential people sharing the beauty and solitude around them.

    That journey inside to discover ourselves ultimately connects us with nature those around us. I have found that no matter how different we might think we are, we are more alike than we can imagine. This is a great post, Klaus. Thank you.

    All my best to the Fab Four,
    Ω

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    • Good afternoon, dear Allan,
      thank you very much for sharing your experience at the Crater Lake. Nature makes us silent. We experience the longer we are in real nature the more silent we become. But we experienced as well that it takes a while until our inner monologue is vanishing more and more in the background.
      Thanks for liking our post.
      Love
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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  11. Excellent post and really awesome photos! Erling Kagge looks stunning in the first photo, I will definitely get this book.
    If you have inner silence, then you and your work will be more organised. That’s my experience. Erling K. seems to be very well organised. Being an author, a father, lecturer, publisher and an adventurer, he must have an awful lot of his agenda and still, his calmness is impressive.
    There are many different kinds of sounds out there that I really like; music, the sound of the horn, the honking of the geese, I love driving with the radio on etc. When I’m upset, nervous, less organised the I start getting irritated by these sounds and then the sound becomes noise to me.
    Thanks for introducing yet another interesting person from the North, Fab Four!
    Sarah Xx

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    • Dear Sarah,
      Erling is a very organised person. His expeditions were meticulously prepared and organised and what he is and has done is amazing. You should think one needs more lives for doing all this. You need a connection with your inner silence to do all this and staying grounded and centred.
      Thanks and cheers
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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  12. Ich werde mir eure Leseempfehlung gerne einmal anschauen, ihr Lieben.
    Ja, um Stille zu “finden” muss man sich nicht zweangsläufig zurückziehen und auch nicht schweigen! In der Stille, die der Urgrund allen Seins ist, kann es durchaus laut und munter zugehen. Nur: der stille Friede, der allem unterliegt, bleibt selbst im lautesten Gewirre davon unberührt.
    Heute haben die meisten Menschen Angst vor dem Alleinsein…und doch liegt im All-Eins-Sein der Friede, den jeder wünscht.
    Jede Angst erlischt, sobald erkannt wird, dass es kein ICH gibt oder jemals gab, was zerstört werden könnte. Hach, ihr bringt mich wieder einmal ins Schwelgen. ❤
    Liebe Grüße in die Stille send. 🙂

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    • Maybe it’s a prejudice of our’s, but for us, the South is associated with noise and the North with silence, and this in every respect. When we are in South of Europe or the Americas, for us everything is too much in the South, whereas the North has the tendency for minimalism, what’s nearer to our heart. But we know there actually doesn’t exist “the South” and “the North”.

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    • I can see your point of view and I suppose being in the north here in the USA like in some mountain ranges it can be silent. But being a lover of the warmth I can attest to sitting on a morning beach in Grand Cayman and staring blissfully out into the horizon hearing nothing but the waves and an occasional bird…until others woke up; small window of silence 😉

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    • We need snow and ice. Snow makes your surrounding immediately much more silent. It’s the optical clarity of the air and the landscape during the wintertime we love.
      Here at the North Notfolk coast the beaches are usually rather quiet. About a quarter of an hour’s walk from the car park you will find hardly anybody. The only sounds are those of all the birds. Well, nice nature-sounds but nevertheless the birds can be quite noisy. But this noise we love as well as the noise of the waves kissing the beach.

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  13. In Begleitung eines Rangers wanderte ich über 
die faszinierende Halbinsel St. Bartholomä am Königssee und 
erfuhr dabei viel Interessantes über die einzigartige Natur des 
Nationalparks. Am meisten hat mich die Tatsache, daß man in dieses Waldstück absolut keine Geräusche der Aussenwelt wahrnimmt, beeindruckt. Es ist absolutt still. Dies ist einzigartig in Deutschland. Viele kommen hierher um die Stille zu lauschen, den Flügelschlag eines Insektens ist hier hörbar.
    Many visitors come to St. Bartholomä/Königssee to listen to the nature like the sound of the wings of an insect for instance. It’s the only place in Germany totally without any humanmade sounds, totally silent.

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  14. Was mich an eurem Post über den Wert der Stille am meisten beeindruckte war der Hinweis, dass man sie selbst in dem Trubel unserer hektischen Zeit finden kann, also auch ohne Zugang zu den einsamen Stellen, die uns die Natur zu bieten hat. In Bezug auf die Stille muss ich auch noch das schwindelnde Tempo unserer Zeit erwähnen, das gegen die Stille des inneren Lebens anstürmt. Vor vielen Jahren habe ich ‘Die Entdeckung der Langsamkeit’ gelesen. Es ist ein 1983 erschienener Roman und preisgekrönter Bestseller des deutschen Schriftstellers Sten Nadolny. Um die Stille zu erreichen, muss man langsamer voranschreiten. Simon Garfunkel sagt es so treffend in seinem Song: Slow down, you are going too fast …

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    • Lieber Peter,
      da hast du völlig recht! Langsamkeit und Stille sind Geschwister. Auch wir lasen begeistert “Die Entdeckung der Langsamkeit” und dabei wurde uns zuerst klar, wie wichtig die Entschleuningung für uns ist. Der deutsche Philosoph Sloterdijk bezeichnet ja richtiger Weise unsere Zeit als “Zeitalter der Beschleunigung”. Diese Beschleunigung ist schon als solche eine Art von Krach (noise oder Unstille 😉 )
      Habe ganz herzlichen Dank, dass du uns auf den wichtigen Zusammenhang von Geschwindigkeit und Stille aufmerksam gemacht hast 🙂 🙂
      Mit ganz lieben Grüßen
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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    • Hi, dear Anneli,
      in German fairy tales, the mushroom-pickers make contacts with the otherworld. They go from a noisy world to a world of silence, the inner world or their subconsciousness which is generally symbolized by the woods. The squirrel would be the devil then 😉
      Thanks and all the best
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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    • Dear Anneli,
      the squirrel was seen as one of the devil’s animals during the middle ages because of its red colour. But even before that, the old Germanic tribes saw the squirrel as Loki’s animal. Loki (old Norse Loptr, Hveðrungr) is a god with many negative attributes.
      Wishing you a happy weekend
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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    • Dear Anneli,
      did you ever came across Roland Barthes’ studies of modern mythologies?
      New mythologies are produced by advertisment, film and other media. And as you describe, it seems to be that mythologies can be changed by media.
      Thanks for your note 🙂 🙂
      All the best
      Klausbernd

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    • Dear Anneli,
      it’s amazing that Roland Barthes wrote his main works in the 50s of the last century but his writings are still up to date. Unfortunately, he got praised from the wrong side, meaning that in post-modern advertisement his ideas are used to seduce people to buy even more stuff nobody needs.
      Have a happy week to come
      The Fab Four of Cley

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  15. Wonderful portrait of Kagge. Says all that is needed. I am often alone now, but silence is still elusive – my thoughts are so noisy! But “Collecting friends like stamps… happy about every like… addicted to recognition..” all too true! . Ouch! Music – especially Bach – soothes me but does not satisfy. Are we not social creatures who need others?

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    • Good morning, dear Peter,
      we love the music of J.S. Bach very much too. It’s very clear and his variations are meditative. Nevertheless, we need silence as well. We have the problem that listening to music our mind is going to wander around. We suppose we can’t really stop our thoughts but we can send them into the background not identifying with them.
      There is no doubt that we are social beings. But we experience being social and open to others we have to be centred and grounded. And isn’t that what silence does? Let’s put it like this, there are times for being social and communicative and there are times for silence.
      Erling writes about the mechanism of satisfaction too. His theory is, we are often kind of half satisfied and therefore we go on and on hoping we can find full satisfaction. We suppose consumerism is based on this mechanism.
      Thanks for your commentary.
      Have a quiet weekend
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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  16. When I lived in northern Canada, I remember the silence of snow – pure white, sparkling in the sunlight – until I took a step and heard the gentle scrunch of snow shifting under my mukluks. The sound was a reminder that I was present, that I was part of the world around me. Your words speak to our need to be always connected, surrounded by people because then – we know that we are not alone. We are social creatures and “aloneness” is indeed frightening because we find ourselves in the silence. The Fab Four of Cley always, always bring joy to my day. P. S. The boys send their “hellos.”

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    • Hi, our dear friend Rebecca,
      it’s one of the reasons we love snow that makes our world silent. Snow and ice eliminate noise. And where is no noise there is only us.
      As we wrote to Peter in our answer to his comment (just above) silence and communication with others are complimentary, we need both. There has to be a balance but nowadays it seems to us that communication has grown at the cost of silence.
      With love ❤ ❤ and hugs to you and your boys xx
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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    • I agree wholeheartedly. In many ways, we have come to mistrust silence because we are losing the ability to understand silence. Have a wonderful day, my dear dear friends. Liquid sunshine in Vancouver. Hugs!

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    • Dear Clanmother Rebecca ❤
      silence was nearly always seen as positive in the European tradition of philosophy. For us, the first association is the contemplation of monks. When I was a student, the professor entered the auditorium and said "silentium!" meaning that we have to concentrate now. For me, silence and concentration are closely related. Before Siri 🙂 and 🙂 Selma wrote about Kagge's book they asked their fairy-friends in Germany and the Benelux-countries what they associate hearing the word "silence". Without any exceptions, they associated "meditation", "concentration", "centering" and "healing". But it seems to be different in North America. In our perception, North America is much more connected with noise than Europe (maybe a prejudice?) and in Europe, the North is more associated with silence than the South. It's typical that a Norwegian writes about silence, isn't it?
      As blogging is quite international it's not surprising that it shows cultural differences. I see it as positive as it makes us aware that we come from different cultural backgrounds.
      Thank you very much to make us aware of this differences. In an answer to a commentary (a couple of commentaries below), Dina writes about the demonstrations of children against their parents who are addicted to social media, cell phones and computer screens and have hardly any time for them. That happened several times in big German cities but I couldn't imagine such demonstrations in North America – but maybe I am wrong?
      Here it's pretty warm and we had sunshine the whole day long.
      Wishing our dear Canadian friend a wonderful weekend
      Klausbernd and the rest of the Cley-gang
      xxxx

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    • Yes!!! There is a part of us that wants to accomplish “important tasks” in our daily routine. We use this as a benchmark of success – YIKES!!! Meditation and contemplation have been replaced by bar charts and progress reports that record and turn our activities into utility or profit. I have added “silentium” to my vocabulary. Many, many hugs to the Fab Four of Cley for our wonderful conversations.

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    • Dear Clanmother,
      our concept of success needs questioning, I suppose. Ambition and success quite often destroy our inner stillness and are reasons for noise as Erling Kagge defines this word.
      I think, when you are young is the time for ambition and trying to be successful, in your third age one should become wise and let go this pressure of society. As I experience it, it is easier not to live through others when you are older. In this way getting old is quite a bliss.
      With lot of love and hugs xxxx
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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  17. Ein großartiger Beitrag! Wahre Sehnsuchtsbilder und wie immer von the Fab Four, anregende und kluge Gedanken. Das Porträt von Erging Kagge sagt alles, es strahlt Ruhe und Frieden aus. Ich erkenne ihn von der Frankfurter Buchmesse dieses Jahr! 🙂

    „Die größte Offenbarung ist die Stille“, schrieb Laotse im Tao Te King. Wie aber gelingt es euch, zur Stille im Inneren zu finden? Ich finde es schwer.
    Dieses Zen Gedicht find ich anregend:

    Still sitzen.
    Nichtstun.
    Der Frühling kommt.
    Das Gras wächst.

    jetzt vielleicht eher passend

    Still sitzen.
    Nichtstun.
    der Herbst kommt
    Blätter fallen

    Der Winter kommt.
    Schneeflocken fallen.

    Das Buch von Erling Kagge werde ich mir dieses Wochenende besorgen. Vielen Dank für den Tipp!

    Liebe Grüße aus Frankfurt,
    Jürgen

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    • Lieber Jürgen,
      wir haben unsere Probleme, Stille zu finden. Wir müssen uns jedes Mal wieder darum bemühen. Wenn wir z.B. in die Natur gehen, ist für uns der erste Schritt, uns bewusst zu werden, welche Gedanken da alle in unseren Köpfen herumschwirren, Der zweite Schritt besteht darin, sie in den Hintergrund treten zu lassen. Das ist für uns der schwierigste Schritt. Wir rufen oft unsere Gedanken zu Ordnung, indem wir ihnen sagen, dass uns jetzt nicht belästigen sollen. Außerdem scheint es uns wichtig, sich nicht mit seinem inneren Monolog zu identifizieren. Wir nehmen die Haltung ein, dass wir sagen “OK, das kennen wir schon und nun Klappe halten!” Das klappt nicht immer, aber meistens. Masterchen meinte auch, dass man nicht zu ehrgeizig sein darf. Manchmal klappt es mit der inneren Stille und manchmal eben nicht, was auch OK ist.
      Vielen Dank für die Gedichte 🙂 🙂 Wir lieben ja den Winter. Es ist eine Möglichkeit, sich leer zu machen, sich auf die fallenden Schneeflocken zu konzentrieren.
      Wir hörten, dass Erling auf der diesjährigen Frankfurter Buchmesse auftrat. Und weißt was? Bei der nächsten Buchmesse ist das Gastland Norwegen 🙂 🙂
      Mit lieben Grüßen vom Meer an den Main
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 :-

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    • Herzlichen Dank für deine ausführliche Antwort, Klausbernd! Seid ihr nächstes Jahr auch auf der Frankfurter Buchmesse?
      Falls ja, würde ich euch dort oder woanders in Ff gerne treffen. 🙂

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    • Lieber Jürgen,
      eigentlich gehen wir nicht mehr auf die Buchmesse (weder Frankfurt, noch Bologna – die anderen Buchmessen spielen eh keine Rolle), da ich ja nicht mehr im Buchgeschäft aktiv bin. Die nächste Buchmesse wird jedoch eine Ausnahme sein, da Norwegen das Gastland ist. Wir möchten dort viele unserer schreibenden Bekannten treffen wie Maja Lunde und Erling Kagge z.B. und natürlich auch dich. Das wird dann wie in alten Zeiten sein, als ich über 40 Jahre lang alljährlich zur Frankfurter Buchmesse kam.
      Näheres können wir dann telefonisch besprechen.
      Ganz liebe Grüße
      The Fab Four of Cley

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    • Good afternoon, dear Marylou,
      we also thought that these pictures are that great that we renounced presenting our own pictures.
      We agree silence transports one into other spheres. It seems to us very important to experience that there is another world besides this noisy world.
      We are sure you will like Erling’s book. We saw on Erling’s website that he sold the foreign rights to the Netherlands.
      Wishing you a quiet weekend
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  18. Stille-das andere Laut ?
    Erstes Bild, bissel grell, man kann vor lauter hell fast nichts mehr hören.
    Dann wird es besser, ausgewogener…
    Faszinierende Fotos, wundervoll!!!

    Das ist sicherlich ein Buch voller hilfreicher Einsichten.
    Bin allerdings froh, dass ich nicht an diese extremen Eckpunkte der Erde musste, es reicht mir auch schon so, auf dem gemütlichen Tanzreisepfad….keine weiteren Abenteuer nötig, drehe Pirouetten!!!
    Gurdjieffs Tänze fehlen mir bedauerlicher Weise noch in meiner Tänzesammlung, es wird aber noch, da bin ich sicher. Kann allerdings auch schon ohne Moves nicht gut Kopfrechnen, oje!
    Finde es äußerst dämlich hier in 3D herumhanitieren zu müssen, ohne spirituellen Körper oder wie das heißt…saudämlich….
    Vollkommen überflüssig, aber das ist eben nur meine Sicht…

    Gestern tanzten wir Schneeflöckchen-Stopp-Tanz, jede ihren eigenen Stil, keine Form war gleich.
    Die kleine Alma, saß genervt vom Erfinden oder auch überfordert in der Ecke, Arme verschrenkt, machte nicht mehr mit: Ich bin eine ganz normale Schneeflocke!
    Heiliges Rinozerus, was könnte das sein? Eine ganz normale Schneeflocke?!

    Ich grüße euch herzlich
    Pia

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    • Liebe Pia,
      näher an die Pole zu kommen, als ich ihnen kam, wäre mir auch zu extrem. Obwohl, wenn ich die zeitgenössischen jungen Explorer lese, scheint mir die psychische Herausforderung zu bestehen, wichtiger als die physische zu bestehen. Mit moderner Technologie und geeignetem Führer kann man fast jeden zum Pol oder auf den Everest bekommen. Aber warum? Dass man leidend eine Leistung vollbringt, finde ich eher dumm als eine Leistung. Ich würde das als Pseudo-Leistung bezeichnen. Oder wie Erling und Kollegen es sehen, es ist sinnlos, ja eher negativ, da es einzig der Eitelkeit dient. Erling sah seine Expeditionen vor über 20 Jahren als Selbstfindungserlebnis an, was mir schon eher einsichtig ist.
      Die Gurdjieff Movements kann man nur in einer Gruppe praktizieren. Es gibt einige wenige, aber hervorragende Lehrer. Klassischer Weise werden die Movements nur im Zusammenhang mit einer Gurdjieff Gruppe gelehrt, deren Prinzip es ist, dass man erst Gurdjieffs Lehre erfasst haben muss, bevor man die Movements vermittelt bekommt. Ich halte das auch für sinnvoll, da einem sonst nicht klar ist, warum man diese komplexen Körperbewegungen ausführen soll. Es geht ja nicht, um Bewegung um der Bewegung Willen, Ich hab’s so verstanden, dass die Bewegung den Geist klärt, wie der Geist die Bewegung klärt. Ohne dieses Zusammenspiel sind die Movements sinnlos oder nur exotische Gymnastik. Das ist ähnlich wie beim Yoga.
      Da hat die kleine Alma doch Recht, eine ganz normale Schneeflocke ist eine erstarrte kristalline Struktur. Sie selbst kann sich nicht bewegen. Wind und Gravitation bewegen sie. So gesehen, sind Schneeflocken passiv. Schneeflocken haben ihre eigene symmetrische Form, sind aber in ihrer Form erstarrt. Ein Vorläufer von Erling, der Walfänger und Wissenschaftler William Scoresby hat im Eis steckend in dem nach ihm benannten Sund wochenlang Schneeflocken gezeichnet und studiert.
      So, jetzt muss ich mich umziehen, da wir gleich mit Freunden essen gehen.
      Mit lieben Grüßen von uns
      The Fab Four of Cley

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    • Danke für die Infos und Erläuterungen! Rhinocerus…in letzter Zeit komme ich immer wieder auf Dürer…
      Alma war eine sich schämende und wütende und gehemmte und gewohnt genaue Vorschriften zu bekommende Schneeflocke, die alles Unangenehme abgenommen bekommt.
      Potenzielle Gravitations- oder Windbringer verweigerten den Dienst, sie wollten lieber neue kristalline Erstarrungen erfinden.
      Wir werden sehen, was Wundervolles in der lieben Alma schlummert….
      So, wir packen hier zusammen, morgen um 9 Uhr kommt “Muskel-Mann-Umzugsdienst”
      Gestern hat Meli wieder ein wenig von den Jugendlichen aus dem Flüchtlingsheim erzählt, in dem sie arbeitet. Es rührt zu Tränen, das ist wohl das Selbstfindungsprogramm inmitten einer ausgesprochen harten Alltagsrealität…
      Ich grüße Euch herzlich
      Pia

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    • Guten Morgen, liebe Pia,
      wir werden heute mit unserem exzentrischen Gärtner einen neuen Komposthaufen bauen und es uns sonst gemütlich machen. In der Nacht hat es geregnet, doch jetzt scheint die Sonne. Es ist angenehm warm, eigentlich viel zu warm für die Jahreszeit. Dir wünschen wir auch einen gemütlichen Sonntag.
      Mit lieben Grüßen
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  19. Ein interessantes Buch, no doubt. Danke fuer die Inspiration und das silent interview, ebenso die anderen links. I love silence and try to have it daily. … In different forms. Have a lovely weekend!

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  20. Thank you for this very interesting post; I have added Erling Kagge’s book to my ‘must read’ list. To be able to find that inner silence, that peace and calm even when surrounded by other people is something I try to do as often as possible. I, like you, am fortunate to live in a quiet village and there are times during the day and night when all I hear is the wind in the trees and other sounds of nature. I know this is a luxury and that I am very fortunate now, as I have lived in London in the past, surrounded by constant traffic noise and people rushing about on their daily tasks. However, even living where I do I cannot always find the time and opportunity to have those times of calm that I need and this makes me feel quite anxious. There are certain tasks I perform at home that provide me with the chance to find peace; gardening, cleaning windows and ironing for example. I also have a voluntary cleaning job at a couple of local churches and I find being in those ancient buildings very helpful.
    I hope you have a wonderful weekend.
    Best wishes, Clare

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    • Good afternoon, dear Clare,
      the outer silence is not so hard to find for us. There is hardly any outer noise here like in your village. For us, the challenge is to find the inner stillness. There are special places where it’s easier to find it as you describe it. These are mostly old places like churches and old churchyards, remote castle ruins and monasteries, It seems to us that those places where people used to become quiet during the centuries are charged with a certain quietness like you describe it in the ancient churches. But even there it always takes a while to stop our inner noise, to stop our inner monologue bothering us. In social situations, we find it much harder getting quiet. Quietly listening and not immediately think about an answer is quite a challenge for us. Working on our own in the kitchen without the radio on is for us a perfect situation to become really quiet like you experience it while ironing.
      We worked the whole morning in our garden today. We noticed that we are much more centred and quiet when we forget about being effective, when we just do it.
      Thank you very much for your commentary.
      Wishing you a wonderful weekend as well
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃👭🚶‍♂️

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    • Thank you, Klausbernd.
      I agree; social situations are difficult as it is so easy to get caught up in the general mood and conversation of the crowd.
      Working without worrying about being effective. Yes, I can see that that would be good.
      Hope your weekend is a good one xx
      Clare 🙂

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    • Dear Clare
      to keep an inner quietness in social situations it helps to listen instead of responding as we experience it. On the other hand, silence in social situations radiates power.
      Wishing you a wonderful week to come
      The Fab Four of Cley
      💃🚶‍♂️👭

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  21. „Es gibt nirgends eine ruhigere und ungestörtere Stätte, zu der der Mensch flüchten könnte, als die eigene Seele. Gönne dir ständig also diese innere Einkehr und erneuere dich selbst“, sagte schon Marc Aurel. Erling Kagge und the Fab Four; ihr zeigt uns wie wichtig ist es, sich diese Stätte und ihre Stille zu suchen.
    Ich habe gerade angefangen dieses Buch zu lesen und bin begeistert.
    Die Abhängigkeit von Smartphones und social media sind alarmierend. Ich finde es an der Zeit, diese Geräte mit einer deutlichen Warnung zu versehen, wie die Zigarettenpackungen: Achtung, macht abhängig und unsozial!
    Liebe grüße, Anna

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    • Liebe Anna,
      SUPER, deine Idee all diese Gadges wie mobile phones, die Zugang zu sozialen Medien bieten, mit einer deutlichen Warnung zu versehen. Rauchen hat ja immerhin noch den Vorteil, dass es sozial macht, während die Abhängigkeit z.B. vom Taschentelefon einen rasend schnell unsozial werden lässt. Erling K. erwähnt in seinem Buch, dass Steve Jobs bei seinen Kindern stark die Zeit der Benutzung ihrer iPhones einschränkte. Die Benutzung von Taschentelefonen und sozialen Medien scheint mir auch den Unteschied der sozialen Schichten zu vergrößern. Kindern von gebildeteren Eltern und besser Verdienen benutzen laut Statistik ihr Taschentelefon weniger (aber immer noch zu häufig, würden wir sagen) als Kinder von unteren Schichten.
      Was wir besonders an Erlings Buch lieben, dass er die unterschiedlichen Aspekte der Stille und deren vielen Dimensionen beschreibt. Man kann dieses Buch als kulturkritisch, soziologisch und ethnologisch, philosophisch und spirituell lesen. Endlich mal wieder ein Buch, bei dem sich einer selbst Gedanken gemacht hat, statt sein Denken an die Medien zu delegieren.
      Herzlichen Dank für deinen Kommentar.
      Genieße das Wochenende
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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    • Kinder? Meinst du, nur Kinder sind heute abhängig? Die Zeit vergeht schnell; vielmehr sind es heute junge Eltern die sich mit ihren Smartphones mehr beschäftigen als mit ihren Kindern;
      das Norwegische Fernsehen, NRK, zeigte letzte Woche diesen Film. Kinder beschweren sich weil die Eltern keine Zeit mehr für sie haben, in HH und andere Städte Deutschlands sind die Kinder auf die Straße gegangen:

      https://tv.nrksuper.no/serie/supernytt/MSUB02016718/07-11-2018

      https://www.welt.de/regionales/hamburg/article181464072/Kinder-demonstrieren-in-Hamburg-gegen-Handy-Eltern.html

      Tolle Kinder, oder? Siri und Selma sind begeistert über diese Initiative! 🙂

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    • Oh dear, oh dear, liebe Dina, da hast du mich bei einem Vorurteil erwischt. Da hast sicher Recht, ich denke gerade an einen früheren Freund von uns, für den außer Instagram nichts mehr existiert – well, Vater von 4 Kindern.
      Was ich interessant finde, warum Frauen sich im Schnitt länger im Netz aufhalten als Männer (was nicht unbedingt meiner Beobachtung entspricht). Lieben oder benötigen Frauen mehr den (sozialen) “Noise” als Männer?
      Danke für die Links
      Siri :-), Selma 🙂 und Masterchen 🙂

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    • Thank you very much, dear Jet, for liking our post 🙂 🙂
      We are just starting to read Erling’s next book about walking. Unfortunately, it is not available in English yet (therefore we read it in the German translation).
      Erling Kagge is seen as the most prominent living explorer – or shall we say “adventurer”? It’s a new generation of explorers. They are not that pretentious as Ranulph Fiennes f.e. They are intellectual and ecological orientated, much better organized and don’t show off with stories about frozen limps they amputate themselves.
      We find Erling very sympathetic and friendly. It is easy to communicate with him.
      Wishing you a quiet week 😉
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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    • Dear Jacqui,
      Kagge’s book about silence had quite an influence on us as well. It reminded me a lot of the teachings of my Gurdjieff teacher I had many years ago. Now I just finished Kagge’s following book about walking. That isn’t translated in English yet so I read it in German and Dina read the original in Norwegian. This Essay “Gehen. Weiter Gehen” complements the silence-book.
      We always had a vague feeling that silence is basic for being creative and for being centred but we weren’t really aware of it before reading Erling’s book. We only knew Erling as “the most prominent living explorer” (actually ‘adventurer’ would be the better designation) before we came these two books.
      Thanks for commenting and wishing you a silent week
      Klausbernd and the others of The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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    • Dear Tanja,
      reading this book had the same effect on us. We try to have at least one hour of silence daily.
      Thanks for commenting and have a happy day
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  25. Charlee: “We’re not so good at silence here. Especially me.”
    Chaplin: “Tell me about it! I’m trying to sleep and you’re over there meowing at Dada to throw the ball for you.”
    Charlee: “Or I’m trying to sleep and you’re meowing for food.”
    Chaplin: “At least meowing for food is respectable cat behavior. Meowing for someone to throw a ball is something a dog would do.”
    Charlee: “Except for the meowing part, you mean?”
    Chaplin: “Yes, except for that.”

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    • Hi, Kitties,
      do you know “Mrs. Chippy’s Last Expedition”? It’s the remarkable Journal of Shackleton’s polar-bound cat with an introduction of Lord Mouser-Hunt, FRGS. You will love it.
      Thanks and all the best
      The Fab Four of Cley

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  26. Great Subject – “Silence ” I’d like to read that book “Silence in the Age of Noise“ I have to go back and take some time to read al your fine print. This reminds me of a great book I read a while ago entitled
    ” QUIET … The Power of an Introvert in a World that can’t Stop Talking” Have you read it?

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  27. As others have said, that portrait is very striking. You can write about silence any time and I will read it. Thanks for introducing us to this book. I must put it on my reading list. It sounds expansive and thoughtful.

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    • Thank you very much for commenting 🙂 🙂
      We love silence although it was quite a challenge to make Siri 🙂 and 🙂 Selma love it too. But now they are fans of silence as well.
      We just read his following book about walking which is as thoughtful and complements his silence book. Unfortunately, it’s translated in most of the European languages but not in English yet.
      Wishing you a quiet day
      The Fab Four of Cley
      🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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